From: Hendrik Boom <hendrik@topoi.pooq.com>
To: libre-riscv-dev@lists.libre-riscv.org
Subject: Re: [libre-riscv-dev] Introduction
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2020 17:15:38 -0400
Message-ID: <20200615211538.hlqecjsk5yrliybp@topoi.pooq.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPweEDwvfxDLw1LYkOfYQTXhTJO7BFaH1DcmZxDQs-xUz2cfjg@mail.gmail.com>
On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 09:49:05PM +0100, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 9:28 PM Yehowshua <yimmanuel3@gatech.edu> wrote:
> >
> > Also, I believe Cole had mentioned that you’re using a Mac?
>
> ah. right. okay. we're not supporting macs, and we're not going to
> do development on macs. there are two aspects to this:
>
> 1). when it comes to the ASIC layout, it is absolutely critical - and
> is Industry Standard Practice - to have full reproducible builds. not
> even the username is different. everyone doing the builds sets up
> carbon-copy machines, where you could literally do a file-system
> byte-level comparison and find absolutely everything is the same.
>
> this is abbbsolutely essential when you are about to drop USD $5m on a
> chip tape-out... oh but the last person who checked the build used
> some totally different library and now "it doesn't work", finding the
> discrepancy results in time lost, you miss the tape-out window
> entirely, and the company loses a USD $100 million dollar deal because
> of it.
>
> so it's actually *really serious* not to be using the exact same
> development workflow as everyone else.
Any chance the Mac might find problems the Debian doesn't?
-- hendrik
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Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-06-15 20:06 Anais Poirier
2020-06-15 20:16 ` Yehowshua
2020-06-15 20:27 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2020-06-15 20:27 ` Yehowshua
2020-06-15 20:49 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2020-06-15 20:55 ` Cole Poirier
2020-06-15 21:04 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2020-06-15 21:08 ` Yehowshua
2020-06-15 21:13 ` Yehowshua
2020-06-15 21:16 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2020-06-15 21:13 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2020-06-15 22:20 ` [libre-riscv-dev] using debian on a mac Jacob Lifshay
2020-06-16 0:01 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2020-06-15 20:58 ` [libre-riscv-dev] Introduction Yehowshua
2020-06-15 21:15 ` Hendrik Boom [this message]
2020-06-15 21:17 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2020-06-15 22:51 ` Jacob Lifshay
2020-06-15 23:59 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2020-06-16 1:09 ` Cole Poirier
2020-06-16 3:03 ` Jacob Lifshay
2020-06-16 3:30 ` Cole Poirier
2020-06-16 8:50 ` Staf Verhaegen
2020-06-16 10:59 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2020-06-16 12:33 ` Staf Verhaegen
2020-06-16 13:13 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2020-06-16 18:29 ` Cole Poirier
2020-06-17 6:17 ` Lauri Kasanen
2020-06-17 16:14 ` Cole Poirier
2020-06-16 12:42 ` Staf Verhaegen
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