* [libre-riscv-dev] video about open source & endurance
@ 2020-03-15 23:05 Jacob Lifshay
2020-03-16 1:24 ` Immanuel, Yehowshua U
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From: Jacob Lifshay @ 2020-03-15 23:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
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found this interesting:
https://youtu.be/Ck9nMq1D_BU
Jacob
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* Re: [libre-riscv-dev] video about open source & endurance
2020-03-15 23:05 [libre-riscv-dev] video about open source & endurance Jacob Lifshay
@ 2020-03-16 1:24 ` Immanuel, Yehowshua U
2020-03-16 1:29 ` Immanuel, Yehowshua U
2020-03-16 1:30 ` Jacob Lifshay
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From: Immanuel, Yehowshua U @ 2020-03-16 1:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
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An iron fireman?
Did you mean to send something different?
Sent from my iPad
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* Re: [libre-riscv-dev] video about open source & endurance
2020-03-16 1:24 ` Immanuel, Yehowshua U
@ 2020-03-16 1:29 ` Immanuel, Yehowshua U
2020-03-16 1:30 ` Jacob Lifshay
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From: Immanuel, Yehowshua U @ 2020-03-16 1:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Oh! He’s setting technological longevity as the standard by which to measure software progress. Got it.
Level1 tech- he also reverse engineered TB3 I believe and wrote AMD drivers before intel opened up TB3 to AMD.
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* Re: [libre-riscv-dev] video about open source & endurance
2020-03-16 1:24 ` Immanuel, Yehowshua U
2020-03-16 1:29 ` Immanuel, Yehowshua U
@ 2020-03-16 1:30 ` Jacob Lifshay
2020-03-16 9:10 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
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From: Jacob Lifshay @ 2020-03-16 1:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Sun, Mar 15, 2020, 18:24 Immanuel, Yehowshua U <yimmanuel3@gatech.edu>
wrote:
> An iron fireman?
> Did you mean to send something different?
>
no, that's correct. it's talking about how things from back then were
designed to last a long time and how modern proprietary computing stuff is
not and how open source software is more likely to last a long time.
Jacob
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* Re: [libre-riscv-dev] video about open source & endurance
2020-03-16 1:30 ` Jacob Lifshay
@ 2020-03-16 9:10 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
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From: Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton @ 2020-03-16 9:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Libre-RISCV General Development
On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 1:30 AM Jacob Lifshay <programmerjake@gmail.com> wrote:
> no, that's correct. it's talking about how things from back then were
> designed to last a long time and how modern proprietary computing stuff is
> not and how open source software is more likely to last a long time.
i know someone who does long-term support on hardware designs. 20
years and above.
he *only* uses software libre PCB CAD packages.
why?
because he takes the *entire* source code - of the entire operating
system - not just the PCB CAD packages (KiCAD usually) - the entire
*operating system* - snapshotting absolutely everything.
why?
because in 15 years time, the way that modern computing is going, the
possibility of being able to successfully run that PCB CAD software,
developed 15 years ago, and fix any PCB issues for the customer, is
extremely remote bordering on negligeable.
and that's even in the open source community.
you will also be keenly aware that the open source community
completely fails to respect and honour "version compatibility and
upgradeability".
so do not buy the kool-aid that open source is and will be
"compatible". yes it will be around, however the chances of being
able to successfully run even a version of a tool from 6 months ago
let alone 15 years is extremely borderline.
l.
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