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From: Staf Verhaegen <staf@fibraservi.eu>
To: libre-riscv-dev@lists.libre-riscv.org
Subject: Re: [libre-riscv-dev] Introduction and Questions
Date: Sat, 16 May 2020 13:30:51 +0200
Message-ID: <7c84f530-fc12-0f4e-8a1c-7e58a1b498c3@fibraservi.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ff622773af59baea76786e85e28649a3941e69e5.camel@fibraservi.eu>

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Op 16/05/2020 om 11:47 schreef Staf Verhaegen:
> Jeremy Singher schreef op vr 15-05-2020 om 16:49 [-0700]:
>>
>> Hmmm, ignoring WAW will significantly limit the ability of the core to
>> exploit ILP, which is one of the fundamental reasons for going OOO.
> I've wondered about this myself. Can you give concrete example of where
> not supporting a WAW hazard blocks ILP ?
> I am asking because just a WAW hazard could be easily avoided by a good
> peep hole optimizer in software because it would see that the output of
> the first write is never used.

Ok after some reflection I do see the most possible performance
difference in procedures calls. Most of the time in procedures some
scratch registers are pushed on the stack at entering.

Assume a write to a scratch register is still pending when doing a
procedure. With real register renaming the register stack push does not
need to block until write to register is complete, if it doesn't the
register push will block.

The question is special hardware provision need to be done to optimize
this case or if one would rely on proper inlining of functions by the
compiler for performance critical code. Personally I don't see a problem
with relying on the latter.

greets,
Staf.



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Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-15 18:24 Jeremy Singher
2020-05-15 18:45 ` Yehowshua
2020-05-15 19:15   ` Jeremy Singher
2020-05-15 19:20     ` Yehowshua
2020-05-15 19:24     ` Yehowshua
2020-05-15 19:33     ` Yehowshua
2020-05-15 20:11       ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2020-05-15 20:50         ` Jeremy Singher
2020-05-15 21:03           ` Yehowshua
2020-05-15 21:19           ` Jacob Lifshay
2020-05-15 21:55             ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2020-05-15 21:53           ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2020-05-15 22:15             ` Jeremy Singher
2020-05-15 22:29               ` Yehowshua
2020-05-15 22:51                 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2020-05-15 22:47               ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2020-05-15 23:49                 ` Jeremy Singher
2020-05-16  0:40                   ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2020-05-16  9:47                   ` Staf Verhaegen
2020-05-16 11:30                     ` Staf Verhaegen [this message]
2020-05-16 12:30                       ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2020-05-16 20:34                       ` Jeremy Singher
2020-05-16 21:42                         ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2020-05-16  9:43       ` Staf Verhaegen
2020-05-16 12:14         ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2020-05-15 18:47 ` Yehowshua
2020-05-16 12:11 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
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2020-05-15  6:50 Jeremy Singher
2020-06-06 22:47 ` Yehowshua
2020-06-06 22:48   ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton

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